verify vin and belly numbers

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verify vin and belly numbers

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Post by flh1958 » Sat Mar 29, 2014 6:55 am

hello to all fellow panhead riders.
this is my first post ,i would like some help to verify my vin and belly numbers are matching.
my vin is 58FLH4196.
belly numbers are 162 4963.
i have seen other 58 panheads with belly numbers starting with 158 xxxx,can 58 pans start with 162???
also it has 7 7 stamped at the rear mount.
thanks dylan.



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Re: verify vin and belly numbers

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Post by 58flh » Sat Mar 29, 2014 11:41 am

The 7s are good ,& my 58flh has Hs on the rear mount!--Apic of the case stamp is where we could verify correct #s!--use a piece of black-tape on the last digits if you don't want them in space!--RICHIE/--Also a pic of BELLY #S is a good thing!

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Re: verify vin and belly numbers

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Post by 1950Panhead » Sat Mar 29, 2014 12:57 pm

You have 62 cases with a 58 vin.
Post a vin photo, we can usually tell if a dealer stamped it or some bozo.
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Re: verify vin and belly numbers

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Post by VPH-D » Sat Mar 29, 2014 2:05 pm

You should have an H stamped on the rear mount area of each case half.
VPH-D

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Re: verify vin and belly numbers

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Post by 58flh » Sat Mar 29, 2014 2:13 pm

VpHD--I thought early run 58FLHs had the 7s & later the Hs. Do I have my info mixed with something else?--Please elaborate :?: --Thanks---RICHIE

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Re: verify vin and belly numbers

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Post by flh1958 » Sat Mar 29, 2014 2:32 pm

hello
and thanks for the very good advise i will get some pictures in the morning and post them.
thanks dylan

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Re: verify vin and belly numbers

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Post by Cotten » Sat Mar 29, 2014 3:34 pm

1950Panhead wrote:..we can usually tell if a dealer stamped it or some bozo.
Jerry
Gosh, Jerry,..

Dealers can be bozos too!

....Cotten

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Re: verify vin and belly numbers

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Post by Faustmill » Sat Mar 29, 2014 3:52 pm

According to Bruce Palmer's book, the vin says it is a 1958 model year. The 162 in the crankcase means it is a 74 ci ("1") and the crankcase was machined in 1962 ("62). So a 58 model year could not have been machined in 1962. Something is amiss.

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Re: verify vin and belly numbers

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Post by RUBONE » Sat Mar 29, 2014 4:47 pm

The 162 belly numbers and the 7s on the upper point to it as having started its life as a '62FL, hence the lack of Hs identifying the cases as FLH. The '58 VIN is not consistent with any reason other than if the cases were replaced by later ones at some point in its life. Whether legitimately or otherwise is difficult to say, and any stamping whether dealer, thief, government agency, etc, does not make it correct as originally built by H-D. Without supporting documentation the general consensus is that modified numbers are an attempt to cover the originals for illicit purposes.

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