1960 Duo-Glide VIN numbers

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1960 Duo-Glide VIN numbers

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Post by Sausage » Fri Aug 19, 2005 8:38 am

Hello:

Would a 1960 FLH Vintage Duo-Glide be titled using a VIN number or titled using the Engine Casing number?
Would the frame contain a VIN number as well?

Thank You again. Sausage



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Re: 1960 Duo-Glide VIN numbers

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Post by Cotten » Fri Aug 19, 2005 6:08 pm

The left motorcase number IS the VIN. Numbers on the bellys of the motor cases are production numbers, and they should be numerically higher than the VIN.
Any alteration of either is felonious (Although a mismatched right case is forgiveable as a replacement.)
Original frames were not stamped.
If you have doubts about the VIN stamps, please take a good photo.
And your local licensed dealership can run the VIN through your authorities before you consider any purchase.

Good luck!

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Re: 1960 Duo-Glide VIN numbers

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Post by suicideshovel65 » Sat Aug 20, 2005 4:14 am

To add to Cotten's comments, the only thing on (I believe post-1952 to 1968?) frames that in anyway might be of interest to you as a stamping (not part number casting) is the date of production code that is stamped into the upper engine mount (eg "J7").
This has nothing to do with the VIN though, and nowt to do with vehicle registration at all either, but it's handy to know.
Forum regulars will remember my ealier woes at trying to determine what frame I had. ;D The seller referred to it as a '73 frame, but I was extremely pleased to know that in actual fact it was a '58 (late '57) duoglide frame!
Buy Bruce Palmer's "Guide to Restoring your Harley Davidson", as it will be an invaluable resource for you (it sounds like you will be restoring, rather than customizing your Harley).

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Re: 1960 Duo-Glide VIN numbers

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Post by Cotten » Sun Aug 21, 2005 8:15 am

From '64 on (and perhaps earlier) there was a small stamping into the left side of the headstock on frames, and also into the front right of transmission cases.
The stampings started with a letter, and then four digits (maybe more?).
Removal or alteration of those numbers is technically a felony as well.

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Re: 1960 Duo-Glide VIN numbers

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Post by joe » Sun Aug 21, 2005 10:07 pm

could you tell me where all numbers.part numbers and vin. are located on 58-68 frames.thanks.

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Re: 1960 Duo-Glide VIN numbers

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Post by Cotten » Mon Aug 22, 2005 8:17 am

Joe!
The posts previous to this one outline all numbers that Factory stamped upon them.
Other cast-in part numbers of the various frame forgings are too numerous for me to outline by memory. You may want to refer to Palmer's "How to Restore Your H-D" (Motorbooks International).

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Re: 1960 Duo-Glide VIN numbers

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Post by Sausage » Wed Aug 24, 2005 4:11 pm

Ok.

It finally arrived yesterday in the mail. An orginal dated 7-28-60
Todd's Harley-Davidson sales draft for a Hi-Blue 1960 FLHF ordered with the following:

F1 Chrome Package
King of the Highway
Red Super Deluxe Buddy Seat
Blue Windshield
CHP Hi-Blue
Steering Damper.
Chrome wheels.

Acoording to GF Panhead restoration book the above mentioned model is the top of the line for 1960. All costs are listed prior to sales tax along with the vehicle engines VIN number listed in three places. I know it's wishful thinking but armed with the VIN number I am going to hunt this Panhead down. Hopefully she is in running order with numbers matching. If so, I will make the owner a sales offer. Thank you again for all your input.

Note: I now have both G.F's Panhead books and Palmers restoration book.

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Re: 1960 Duo-Glide VIN numbers

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Post by panfreak » Thu Aug 25, 2005 12:47 pm

Sausage,
Your post leads me to think that you've sent the VIN somewhere and got back an original sales slip. I was inquiring about this in another post, and would like to do the same with my pan. Where did you go, maybe others would like to do it too?

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Re: 1960 Duo-Glide VIN numbers

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Post by Sausage » Thu Aug 25, 2005 5:22 pm

Panfreak:

Ok

I won an Ebay auction for two pieces of paper is all. These two pieces of paper contained the previously mentioned:

1) Order sales draft data
2) Shipping data

Of what is believed to be the top of the line 1960 FLHF package available.
What I want to do is hunt this machine down by using the VIN/Engine Casing numbers. I spoke to three local dealers and none could help. The original West Virginia dealer is gone. I am now brainstorming of what to do next.

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Re: 1960 Duo-Glide VIN numbers

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Post by suicideshovel65 » Thu Aug 25, 2005 11:47 pm

Hi Sausage,

An interesting and romantic concept - like a grown-up treasure hunt!
Keep your eyes peeled for single owner / family owned machines though - some people are fastidious about keeping paperwork, and rather than hunt down a particular machine, you might be able to buy one with all the original paperwork with it.
Cheers,

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