WL kickstart problem

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keithlawes
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WL kickstart problem

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Post by keithlawes » Sat Aug 05, 2017 4:18 pm

Hi,

One specific fault on my WL.
The kickstart appears to have missing or broken teeth on its quadrant, or whatever mechanism is used.
Engine kicks over OK for first part of its travel, but as it reaches the bottom of the arc it suddenly disengages.
Probably will get the engine going OK, but presumably needs to be fixed.
Is the kickstart mechanism internal within the gearbox? Or in the outer casing under the clutch level?

Thanks. Keith



keithlawes
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Re: WL kickstart problem

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Post by keithlawes » Sat Aug 05, 2017 4:27 pm

Ahh! Having read elsewhere in this forum there is mention of some kickstarts which deliberately disengage at the bottom of the stroke to prevent kickback. Is this correct? Does disengage with quite a clunk but maybe is correct??

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Re: WL kickstart problem

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Post by RCamp » Sun Aug 06, 2017 12:29 pm

The starter clutch only engages for about 45deg. from approx. 10 o'clock down to 7 o'clock.
The clunk you are hearing may be you kicker arm mounting bolt hitting your clutch arm on the down stroke.
If you have the correct kicker arm and mounting bolt required for either the narrow or wide clutch arm that won't happen.

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Re: WL kickstart problem

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Post by liberator » Sun Aug 06, 2017 4:01 pm

I haven't seen self-disengaging kickers on WL's yet.
So there's probably something wrong with either the little kickergear or the 'X-mas tree' in which it engages.
Common problem when aftermarket gears have been used to overhaul a gearbox.
And yes; to reach these parts you'll need to remove and dismantle the gearbox...
Sounds difficult but one can have the box out in half an hour

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Re: WL kickstart problem

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Post by keithlawes » Sun Aug 06, 2017 8:25 pm

Thanks guys. Will leave as is for now and see how I get on.

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Re: WL kickstart problem

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Post by RUBONE » Sun Aug 06, 2017 11:26 pm

The lever will disengage at approximately the 7:00 position. It is normal.

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Re: WL kickstart problem

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Post by svkiwi » Mon Aug 07, 2017 4:39 am

I obviously need more practice or am doing it wrong- no way can I remove a transmission in 1/2 an hour!!

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Re: WL kickstart problem

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Post by keithlawes » Mon Aug 07, 2017 6:57 pm

Many thanks guys. Was about to take it apart. You've saved me a shedload of work!!

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Re: WL kickstart problem

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Post by liberator » Wed Aug 09, 2017 12:30 pm

Hold on; what do you mean by 'disengaging'..?
Does it jump out of gear while you stand on the kicker, or do you say at the end of the stroke there's no more drive?
In the second case, as Robbie mentioned, yes; that's normal.
I think I misunderstood...sorry

As for removing a gearbox in half an hour: that's doable...
remove chaincovers and disconnect both chains and clutchcable, disconnect gearshifter and remove the two screws which hold the chainplate to the motor.
Lower the skidplate (if installed) and remove the three nuts and washers.
Remove battery, batterybox and toolbox and flip up the oilfilter; you should be able to remove the gearbox with clutch and chainplate at once..
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keithlawes
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Re: WL kickstart problem

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Post by keithlawes » Sat Aug 12, 2017 10:33 pm

Hi, it is indeed the second i.e. it just comes out of engagement at the bottom of the stroke. So it's fine.
It's a good idea, means any kickback will not damage knees etc....
Not something I've ever come across on any British bike. Though my Panther 600 single could do with it as my right knee can testify!

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