Adding a kick start kit to a stock 1982 tranny

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Adding a kick start kit to a stock 1982 tranny

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Post by Holtvintage » Fri Mar 09, 2018 7:31 pm

I thought about adding a kick start kit to my 1982 flh. I still want the electric leg, just thought a kicker would be a nice back up and they look cool. I am looking at the ultima 1966-1984 kit. The ad doesn't say specifically that the kit is a add-on or a electric replacement. Did know if anyone has any personal experience with this or a similar product. My next step is call ultima tech department ti ask about fitment. I'm sure their opinion is that theirs is the best on the market ;) . Thanks



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Re: Adding a kick start kit to a stock 1982 tranny

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Post by guppymech » Sat Mar 10, 2018 12:30 am

I've read bad things about imported kicker gears, not sure if this applies to Ultima. Baker makes some nice gears in the USA and if my OE Harley gears ever wear out that's what I'm going to use. If you actually intend to use the kicker a lot, I've read the stock electronic ignition V-Fire II or later is not kicker friendly and that is what I found to be the case with my '84 FXE.
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Re: Adding a kick start kit to a stock 1982 tranny

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Post by Holtvintage » Sat Mar 10, 2018 4:57 am

I replaced stock ignition with a single fire dyna tek kit. It said it will do both. Thanks for the heads up

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Re: Adding a kick start kit to a stock 1982 tranny

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Post by RooDog » Sat Mar 10, 2018 4:54 pm

The problem to be addressed with the stock ignition is that it is programmed to allow the engine to turn over one or two revolutions before it activates, turns on the spark, so kicking to start would amount to wasted effort with that iggy "off" until it activates. This would require the additional expense of an aftermarket ignition. And the cost just keeps rising, H-D = Hundred Dollars.....RooDog

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Re: Adding a kick start kit to a stock 1982 tranny

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Post by Buddhahoodvatoloco » Sun Mar 11, 2018 2:34 am

I can not recall who we got the kicker set up from on a 75 pimple shovel, but I am certain it wasn't Ultima.
I suggest you do more homework, better options than Ultima. Since you've already addressed the spark concern, your half way there. Good luck.

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Re: Adding a kick start kit to a stock 1982 tranny

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Post by Frankenstein » Sat Mar 17, 2018 11:29 am

The big gear on the kicker crank is the one that fails usually. Poor or non existent heat treat of the "forcing" plate. If you keep your eye open, you can still find good used original equipment ones at the swap meets. The dead give away is the copper plating on one side of that part. The copper plating was the factory's way of preventing the bone charcoal from assimilating into some particular area of a part while it was being emersed in the charcoal and being "baked" in the heat treating ovens. Bone charcoal being best the sort for hardening treatment, I was once told by an old timer who had observed the factory process .
I'm sure you've seen the copper plate on mainshaft and crankpin threads before. That was the reason for placing it there, so the threads wouldn't be brittle.
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Re: Adding a kick start kit to a stock 1982 tranny

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Post by FL54 » Mon Mar 26, 2018 2:29 pm

Don't know about the '82 but I recently added a kickstart to a '72 for the same reason (backup). One suggestion is to get the longer kickstart shaft to get your knee further away from the battery. The biggest problem I had was the exhaust. The non kickstart cover has a recess for the exhaust pipe. The kicker cover for a kickstart doesn't. The clearance between the spring and the pipe needs to be addressed somehow.

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