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introduction and a question

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Post by mik666 » Sun Aug 13, 2017 1:04 am

Hello all -
I've been a member of the site for a while but haven't been on for a while as i sold my 45 about 8-9 months, however I recently bought a 61 panhead for the price i sold the 45 with the classic sale of "ran when she was parked" sort of deal. overall the bike doesn't look to bad, hideous pant job, but obviously at one point in its life someone cared about the bike a lot (have a bunch of receipts for balanced crank engine work etc from the late 80's). I'm staring to pull things off to clean/grease them up and check things out. I decided i wanted to check the compression (plugs didn't look bad - no molten aluminum) and found that with the gauge screwed and when the pressure build to abt 80 lbs the bike won't kick through - rather a sort of cluck from the tranny occurs and the kicker cycles through without moving forward the crank/engine. i pulled the primary cover off and do see the clutch hub sort of expand a tiny bit simultaneously with the clunk (not nearly to the degree when i pull the clutch in) . I'm think the kicker assembly is probably trashed, and just got the clymers repair guide in the mail today but wanted to get any advice if my reasoning seems on track and if so (or not) things to look for or pointers on pulling the kicker assembly and replacing/rebuilding it
thx as always
mike



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Re: introduction and a question

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Post by 1950Panhead » Sun Aug 13, 2017 2:51 am

You can feel when the kicker gears engage, remove left primary cover and watch chain spin, if chain does not move your kicker gears may be worn out.

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Re: introduction and a question

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Post by mik666 » Sun Aug 13, 2017 4:06 am

thx for reply 1950 pan - yes the primary chain moves until the motor is on the compression stroke then pushing the kickstart harder causes it to slip and it does not push the motor through the stroke - maybe clutch is in need of attention?

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Re: introduction and a question

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Post by 1950Panhead » Sun Aug 13, 2017 1:35 pm

Watch clutch center when you kick, if center spins clutch needs repair, if center does not spin you need kicker repair.

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Re: introduction and a question

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Post by mik666 » Sun Aug 13, 2017 2:11 pm

thx!

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Re: introduction and a question

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Post by Wrong Road » Sun Aug 13, 2017 4:50 pm

May just need to adjust the clutch cable. I would try that first.

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Re: introduction and a question

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Post by Buddhahoodvatoloco » Sun Aug 13, 2017 6:26 pm

Pull the plugs, and see if it kicks the motor through.
That's where I would start.

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Re: introduction and a question

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Post by Wrong Road » Sun Aug 13, 2017 10:37 pm

He stated that he had the plugs out so I'm assuming he turned it over. If the bike has been in storage for years there are a lot of things to start with.

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Re: introduction and a question

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Post by Doc37W » Thu Aug 17, 2017 7:03 am

I always recommend getting the service manual and parts book for the year of bike in question. More expensive, but worth it. Clymers are just a "In General" sorta of a manual.

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Re: introduction and a question

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Post by mik666 » Fri Aug 18, 2017 4:58 pm

So i disassembled the clutch and replaced the springs and the metal plates (plates looked like someone took a grinding wheel to them to remove rust and other surface marks) and cleaned the fiber plates and it seems all good, though the clutch is pretty heavy - figured the barrent springs may of been the wrong call but at least it all works
thx for input as always
m

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