Starting a 1950 pan

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Starting a 1950 pan

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Post by Moose » Tue Apr 25, 2006 11:18 am

I just bought a 1950 pan that has been in storage since 1964. I cleaned out the tanks changed the oil got a new battery getting ready this weekend to take the carb apart and take a look. I put come oil in the spark plug holes last sunday. Anything else I shoud look at before i try to fire it up



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Re: Starting a 1950 pan

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Post by Jack_Hester » Tue Apr 25, 2006 12:29 pm

Moose -

Flush the tranny and oil tank with kerosene. Then, after you have put the new lube in and run the bike, until the oil tank gets hot, change it again with fresh.
If you are taking the carb off, check out Cotten's procedure for pressure testing the intake manifold. Pay no attention to any other old techniques for finding leaks. His is foolproof, and tells the real story. Tiny leaks can make for hard starting, and some mighty tough tuning problems.
Put a bit of Marvel Mystery Oil in the gas. Not only works as a top end lube. But, will help clean the remaining gum and carbon out of all the places you didn't find. Don't over do it, though. In this case, more is not good. Follow the directions on the container. Some have stated, in the past, that too much lowers the octane of the fuel.
You can try the old points and condenser. They may work. But, I would put new ones in, as the old points oxidize and won't conduct. And, the condenser will dry out with age, and not work at all, frying any points that do work.

I haven't tried to think of everything. Just a few that come to mind.

Jack

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Re: Starting a 1950 pan

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Post by panfreak » Tue Apr 25, 2006 3:41 pm

Moose,
Make sure you have a toothbrush handy.

To clean that shit eating grin off your face when she fires for the first time in 42 years!

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Re: Starting a 1950 pan

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Post by Panacea » Tue Apr 25, 2006 11:36 pm

Moose, have you any pictures? I've always dreamed of finding an oldpan or nuck in some old barn somwhere...MW

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Post by Billy » Wed Apr 26, 2006 4:14 am

moose

Also;
After putting in the New Battery, you will need to 'polarize' the system to have it charge properly..
Nice find!! Good looking '50 (I eyeballed the pic in the Photo- gallery) ;D
Is that the rare Burgundy ?
Somebody loved her. Got some rare & fancy accessories !!
Plus- the dual exhaust w/the cool Large extensions !! ;D
Have fun man !!

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Post by panhead » Wed Apr 26, 2006 5:57 am

Moose, have you any pictures?
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Re: Starting a 1950 pan

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Post by Jack_Hester » Wed Apr 26, 2006 9:58 am

Just took a peek at the photo. What a fine machine! I probably wouldn't sleep at night, for some time. Great find.

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Re: Starting a 1950 pan

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Post by King » Wed Apr 26, 2006 1:04 pm

Moose

What a find!! It looks like it even has original style tires. I would do all the things the others have suggested plus if it has the oil filter be sure to replace it with a new one. I prefer the modern paper cartridges to the old "compressed horsehair" variety.

Enjoy!

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Re: Starting a 1950 pan

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Post by 51Hog » Wed Apr 26, 2006 3:41 pm

You are living the dream Moose. I hope you enjoy..
When I got mine out of a 20 year storage, I had to rebuild the tranny. Some of the gears were pitted beyond use. Somehow the tranny accumulated water while it was in storage.
When I tore the engine down, she was all nice and shiny inside--even though she was all used up.
It took about 1 hour to get her fired up after storing for that long.
I pulled the plugs and put about 1/4 ounce Marvel Mis trey oil in each cylinder, changed the oil in the tank and turned her over many times until she loosened up like it should be.
I changed the points, condenser, plugs, pulled the float bowl and cleaned out the powder, tanks were clean, added fuel and a battery. Two full choke prime kicks power off- One kick one notch choke power on got me a POP. Another few kicks made her run. Man did she smoke from the MMOil. Smoke cleared, I changed the oil again and rode her around the block!!
Since then, I have completed a 100% rebuild, top to bottom.

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Re: Starting a 1950 pan

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Post by Lstpan65 » Sat Apr 29, 2006 11:55 am

That truly is a great find, Good luck. Thanks for the link Panhead

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Re: Starting a 1950 pan

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Post by 65restoration » Fri May 05, 2006 3:39 pm

Moose congrats on the 50 pan. I too have recently obtained an older bike being a 1965 Electraglide with the first electric start and the only pan with electric starter. It had set in a shed in Kansas since 1967 so I cleaned the carb, removed tanks due to rust and varnish, changed all fluids and fired it up and what a sweet sound when it finally started running smooth after adjusting the carb. Good Luck.

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Re: Starting a 1950 pan

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Post by Billy » Sat May 06, 2006 4:34 am

65restoration-

A nice collectible year, to be sure. I'm sure your 65 EG is Sweet..
& true the only Pan to come stock w/electric leg...
Glad you are enjoying your new '65Pan. ;)

'65 was not the first year Harley had electric-start. Or 12 volts.

That honor was bestowed on the 1964 HD 45 Flathead Servi-Car

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Re: Starting a 1950 pan

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Post by 65restoration » Mon May 08, 2006 4:08 pm

Thanks for the history. Learn something new everyday.

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Re: Starting a 1950 pan

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Post by Cotten » Tue May 09, 2006 1:04 am

Besides the basics of cleaning out the carb, re-doing the manifold, flushing all fluids, etc...

I have found a very satisfying preparation for a barn derelict is to thoroughly cook out the exhaust pipes with a hot air gun. It always makes a good impression when a machine is re-awakened and it doesn't even smoke.

....Cotten

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