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Billpan58
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Screaming eagle carb

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Post by Billpan58 » Sat Aug 28, 2010 6:49 am

buddy and i are trying to use this on my 58 pan[.60 over low comp. motor] any one run one,jet advice would be appreaciated,were starting to get some color but not done, acclerator pump[advice welcome] way more complex than the bendix we took off,if we dont suceed on monday[day 3] will try going back to linkert or super e



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Re: Screaming eagle carb

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Post by hplhd » Sat Aug 28, 2010 10:11 am

i'd have to check cause i can't remember shit but i have a cv offa 98 evo on my pan junk build. a coupla squirts and she's uaually a 2 kicker. i'm sure you'll get the info from someone who is more knowledgable about it. hell i tried running one cause of the info i received here on the cv's. it's a little rich but i am still only dialing it in, me no have tags or insurance on it yet.

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Re: Screaming eagle carb

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Post by 48blackone » Sun Aug 29, 2010 6:58 am

I have this carb on my 48 Pan , wonderful idle and super acceleration, but Ive also an S&S 4 1/2 crankcase and Andrews A cam so i think my jetting is too rich for a stock engine. In any case, if in good conditions, it is a really good carb.
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Re: Screaming eagle carb

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Post by 48blackone » Sun Aug 29, 2010 7:05 am

hops, 4 1/2 S&S flyweel :wink:
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Re: Screaming eagle carb

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Post by RussW » Mon Aug 30, 2010 3:19 am

If it is actually "Screaming Eagle" , it could well be a 44mm. carb. Thats big for even a stroker pan, most people adapt a 40mm.CV off an Evo or TC. I run a CV40 on my 86" pan, works very well. Check to make sure, as a 44mm carb would be harder to get to run well, kind of like an S&S Super G instead of a Super E.

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Post by Billpan58 » Thu Sep 02, 2010 6:56 am

48 blackone, could you tell me your starting routine for hot and cold, thanks Bill

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Re: Screaming eagle carb

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Post by 48blackone » Fri Sep 03, 2010 7:57 pm

The SE Keihin that I ve on my pan is a 40 mm butterfly Type, the old Andrews Flowmaster, and not as Russ on his reply mentioned a 44 mm CV. If you have the same as I ve,the procedure to start the engine is the same like a S&S E carb.
Cold Engine: Cocke out, ignition off, a shap kick on the kickarm. Chocke in, put the piston on compression stroke, the ignition on and another sharp kick should enough to start the engine.
Warm Engine: Ignition off, Chocke off, kick the pistón on compression stroke. Ignition on, gas a little , very little, open.
Then a sharp kick should also in this case enough to start the engine.
Giovanni

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Re: Screaming eagle carb

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Post by Billpan58 » Sat Sep 04, 2010 6:01 am

thats the one were using, what jets do you run,got a 65 mid rande in got some better color today, we havent messed with high speed at all,whats your's?we are one and an eighted out on screw,wheres yours. i also put in eboynd 2000 electronic ing.unning 6 volt still appreciate all the help you can give us,later Bill

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Re: Screaming eagle carb

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Post by Billpan58 » Sat Sep 04, 2010 6:04 am

what kind of mileage are you getting

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Re: Screaming eagle carb

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Post by 48blackone » Sat Sep 04, 2010 8:14 am

I started also with a 65 jet, was going good and also started good with a good mileage. But I ve had a problem with it ,
when I accelerate to raise an Hill the engine backfired under load. I used then a 68 and the problem was solved. I regulate the accelerator pump just to spray as less as possible because in normal condition the 68 low jet is enough to feed the engine. As main Jet I use a 170. The mileage is about 15 kilometers with 1 liter, 1 gallon are about 3,5 liters , 15 km are about 9,4 miles, 3,5x9,4= 32,9 miles/gallon.
The jetting I use could not be the right for jou, my pan is a S&S stroker 84 ci, I live 870 meters over the sea level, I weight 110 kilos about 210 lbs. As I came here in Germany I must rejetted also my Evo Road King, 190 main jet and 48 idle with an Andrews EV 13 and a mileage of 18 km per liter . I read in others Evo forum that some persons are satisfied with 185 main and 45 idle but for sure they live in lower territories where the air pressure is higher. I leaved on the sea level before, near Venice in Italy and I didn t know could be such a big difference on jetting a carb.
Hope it can help you
Giovanni

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Re: Screaming eagle carb

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Post by Billpan58 » Sat Sep 04, 2010 4:23 pm

giovanni, what exhaust system and air filter are you using on the 48 pan? really apprecieate your help! also what plug. when you said open in starting instructions. was that the throttle? are you from italy orig., my daughter and son in law live in prato.we are trying to figure out if original big fish tail muffler is going to work , as far as the back pressure. right now we have a 6 inch k and n filter, with a 7 inch chrome cover bolted over to reduce turbulence. last night riddind in strong wind front cylider was nice med brown and back was light black, not sotty, but dry. after 30 miles. will ride today and see what happens?i was in italy last sept when they were married. maybe again this fall.

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Re: Screaming eagle carb

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Post by 48blackone » Sun Sep 05, 2010 10:30 am

I've exactly the same filter and cover as you have, 1 in 1 slip on muffler, as spark plug I use Bosch WR 6 in cold weater and WR 7 when warm because here in Germany you can buy them everywere, they are similar to Champion L82. For gas I mean throttle ( sorry ).
Si sono Italiano, my wife is German and we have a 3 years old son and a 4 months daughter.
Greetings to your family and the next time you are in Europe we could meet us .
Giovanni

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Re: Screaming eagle carb

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Post by Billpan58 » Fri Sep 10, 2010 5:06 am

got good color today, carb starts way better than bendix when hot,havent got new elect. ignit. totaly dialed in ,may have to pull dist and jump tooth.thanks for everybodies help.changed fork oil other night if id known what a difference it would make i would have done it long ago.later Bill

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Re: Screaming eagle carb

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Post by Billpan58 » Mon Mar 21, 2011 7:03 pm

had this carb on bike for a few months,still not fully satisfied w/it. runs well going the road,responsive,ete, but startin g not the best,seems to fire,but not take hold. Have been kicking 3 times w/enricher on[off w/key on],sometimes fires sometimes does'nt. Carb is mouinted on s+s manifold. bike is timed correctly will idle nice and slow. Buddy {w/shop} set float,works on carbs all time. hot starts not much better,have tried no squirts and a little.Any ideas fellow members?

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