Batteries in a Horseshoe tank

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Batteries in a Horseshoe tank

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Post by superp » Mon Sep 10, 2012 11:25 pm

I know some you yall put the batteries on end in the horseshoe oil tank.

How do you keep them from shorting out? ideas?

I wrapped my battery with duct tape, but I know it will wear.



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Re: Batteries in a Horseshoe tank

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Post by RUBONE » Tue Sep 11, 2012 12:43 am

I have no clue what the heck you are talking about!!

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Re: Batteries in a Horseshoe tank

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Post by superp » Tue Sep 11, 2012 12:48 am

The battery goes on the horshoe oil bag under the seat...some aftermarket AGM batteries are too long and have to be set in there sideways...on end. This puts the pos/neg posts against the metal wall. If the positive post hits, it shorts and sparks.

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Re: Batteries in a Horseshoe tank

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Post by jdpan » Tue Sep 11, 2012 12:53 am

Why not just get a battery that fits like it's supposed to?

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Re: Batteries in a Horseshoe tank

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Post by superp » Tue Sep 11, 2012 1:30 am

Because it was new and free.

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Re: Batteries in a Horseshoe tank

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Post by 1950Panhead » Tue Sep 11, 2012 2:23 am

If the battery is smaller then original you can construct a wooden box.
If the terminal are on the side you can use a rubber sheet (old inner tube) to insulate.
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Re: Batteries in a Horseshoe tank

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Post by Northman » Tue Sep 11, 2012 2:44 am

Suprp,
Not sure what you have going on, but heres something that works well.
I took the box for the 6 to 12 conversion and broke all the spot welds with a nice flat, wide, chisel and hammer, after it was loose enough I removed the floor tabs that hold that dinky 12 volt, did my measurements of how high I wanted the battery to sit WITH an account for a rubber pad on the bottom, made sure I had enough threads from the flags exposed too. I made a new floor(cut out of heavy sheet metal) and tack welded everything back in place at the new hight. I secured a heavy piece of rubber to the box on the + terminal side and secured heavy auto weather strip to the top that holds the battery down, in the front and top. I have no idea of how or where I ended up with this rubber material, email me and I'll send you some if it helps..

Heres a pic. of what it looks like in the box. I have an arrow pointing to the insulator @ the positive term. location.
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Re: Batteries in a Horseshoe tank

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Post by superp » Tue Sep 11, 2012 2:51 am

This is exactly what I am dealing with. Good idea. I think I have a rubber floor mat I can use.

Thanks!

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Post by Northman » Tue Sep 11, 2012 2:59 am

I should clarify....sit WITH an account for a rubber pad on the bottom-------on the bottom of the battery box not the bottom of the battery, cut it to size and it will sit perfect in that recessed area in the tray and insulate the vibration!

Northman.

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Re: Batteries in a Horseshoe tank

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Post by Dave_R » Tue Sep 11, 2012 3:38 am

A rubber mouse pad also works for the bottom as it is usually real dense foam rubber.

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Re: Batteries in a Horseshoe tank

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Post by Scrap » Tue Sep 11, 2012 4:40 am

Superp,
If you're using good quality duct tape, it's metallic, not a good choice as an insulator for use with electricity.

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Re: Batteries in a Horseshoe tank

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Post by Cotten » Tue Sep 11, 2012 1:25 pm

How do you folks with modern sealed batteries,
know if your charging rate is proper for them?

I almost used one out of the weedwhipper for Davenport.

Thanks in advance,

....Cotten

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Re: Batteries in a Horseshoe tank

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Post by 58flh » Tue Sep 11, 2012 1:46 pm

COTTON!---I have a 10amp 320cca--AGM BATT.---I use a delco-remy regulator thats from an old caddy!. They are high-output as you know!--What I did I Tweaked, ADJ. my reg. for ,at 900RPM Shes putting 13.4 at idle back into the batt.!--At higher RPMS 2000+ I am putting 14.5 Volts back in!. This helped me out tremendously as Im running a Halogen bulb At 55/100 Watt. I can run it daytime (by-law) for hrs. & no discharge!--I put it to the test in July when we went to the PENN.--OHIO border for a 5-day party!---Coming home we rode all night 6+hrs. with the light on!--doing 50 to 65MPH because we had a few 45-flatties with us & some of the pans were not really geared for 65-70mph for that long of a time. When I got home I shut down & left headlight on for about 15min. more to unpack the scoot. The next morning I checked voltage at the BATT. & it was 12.4!---So far its been good! & I heard of guys already on thier 3rd. year with a AGM-BATT. Hope this helps, These are the olny MEAS. I have taken! I did not check AMPS or anything else!---With Respect----RICHIE 8)

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Re: Batteries in a Horseshoe tank

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Post by Huck » Tue Sep 11, 2012 7:35 pm

Ditch all that and drop in a mag! Where the battery lived is a good spot for crackers n peanutbutter.

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Re: Batteries in a Horseshoe tank

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Post by PanPal » Tue Sep 11, 2012 7:48 pm

I almost used one out of the weedwhipper for Davenport.
I used a 6 volt lantern battery from Walmart to get me home a few years ago. Now I make my batteries. I use 3 panosonic sealed lead acid 7 AH batteries stuffed in a 6 volt gutted HD battery case. I made a spare this year before a 5 day trip in case I ran into a battery problem along the way. The one in my bike now is the same and on its 4th season. I havent even put a trickle charger on it during the winter months but I do start the bike once a month. Before making this battery this year it was my spare in the 6 volt gutted case but it only had 2 batteries in it. It was sitting on the shelf for the last 3 years. When I pulled it out and checked the batteries had swelled up and deformed. Im not sure why they went bad just sitting on the shelf. I have no idea how well it is being charged, but it has lasted longer than any off the shelf battery I have used in the past.

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