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Ignition Switch

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Post by jdpan » Mon Apr 18, 2011 10:42 pm

Does anyone make an electronic, 5 terminal switch that will actually work with a two light dash? Did some research and from personal experience, the 6 terminal switches dont work well. Mine seems to be getting a little flakey and will intermittently lose connection, no fun at a stoplight.. If anyone can make suggestions or any assist, appreciation your way. Might consider taking it apart and etching the contact points if I have to.



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Re: Ignition Switch

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Post by john HD » Mon Apr 18, 2011 10:57 pm

jd,

might try the following.

take it apart and clean the contacts with steel wool. then grease it with white lithium or lubriplate grease.

while you have it apart check the rivets that hold the buttons to the fiber plate. if they are loose you may try restaking the rivets with a dull center punch to tighten the rivets up.

finally you can rotate the contact bar to get a clean contact. or just replace it with a new one.

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Re: Ignition Switch

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Post by jdpan » Mon Apr 18, 2011 10:59 pm

John, can you replace just the contact bar, or did you mean replace the whole switch? Thanks.. I did that to the old one and it only lasted a short time, thats why the electronic switches sound appealing..

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Re: Ignition Switch

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Post by Pomike » Mon Apr 18, 2011 11:50 pm

The ones made by Superior in Japan are good. I don't think they are made anymore, but there seem to be a million of them out there. I'd sell you mine, but I am keeping it for a spare. The originals can be rebuilt. I do it all the time. Then they work fine again. Just rakes some attention to detail. and a little hand fitting. The Supriors are on ebay a lot. Some dealers still have them laying around. The six post will work. You just don't use one of them.
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Re: Ignition Switch

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Post by jdpan » Mon Apr 18, 2011 11:59 pm

Never had much luck with the 6 terminals fitting comfortably under the dash and they seem to be just a tad tall and bind... Got a link to the Superior ones? Thanks..

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Re: Ignition Switch

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Post by john HD » Tue Apr 19, 2011 1:04 am

jdpan wrote:John, can you replace just the contact bar, or did you mean replace the whole switch? Thanks.. I did that to the old one and it only lasted a short time, thats why the electronic switches sound appealing..
yes you can just replace the bar. or roll it over to the good side for a quick fix.

whatever you do grease the daylights out of it and it will work better even with marginal parts.

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Re: Ignition Switch

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Post by hplhd » Tue Apr 19, 2011 10:48 am

jdpan wrote:Never had much luck with the 6 terminals fitting comfortably under the dash and they seem to be just a tad tall and bind... Got a link to the Superior ones? Thanks..
i tried a 6 post and the 6th post would hit the lite shroud in the dash also.

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Re: Ignition Switch

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Post by Bosheff » Tue Apr 19, 2011 7:11 pm

I realize that a 6 pole switch is not wired the same as a 5 pole, nor are the corresponding poles located in the same positions, BUT....have ya ever thought bout removin the obstructing 6th pole and rewiring to what ya got. This may or may not be possible depending on how the contact plate is designed. OR... find yerself a stock 5 pole unit and go from there. Short of the contact plate (fibre contact) being broken, or the contact roller (brass lookin pin) bein highly worn, these switches should last 2 life times if assembled properly and lubricated/cleaned occasionally. As for the 6 pole switch bein taller tham the 5 pole, I've never experienced this dilema. It may be a repop piece. The lock is the easiest way to tell if the switch is "genuine" if it is installed with the dash cover in place....bosheff

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Re: Ignition Switch

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Post by jdpan » Tue Apr 19, 2011 10:03 pm

The 6th terminal isn't the issue, that can easily be delt with, it's the physical size of the unit itself. Side by side, the 6 term. stands slightly taller and wont fit under the dash without stressing it..... This was the case the last time I tried one several years back, yes it was a repop.. Is it suggested to Lubriplate the contact points on the switch? That won't interfere with conductivity? I may just take my 5 term. apart tonight for inspection, I still wouldn't mind knowing where to find an e-switch..

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Re: Ignition Switch

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Post by john HD » Wed Apr 20, 2011 1:01 am

jd

yes lubriplate is a good grease for electrical connections.

most all of the heavy duty electrical equipment we install at the power company comes with lubriplate.

try it and see what happens.... the worst thing you would have to do is start over and clean it off!

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Re: Ignition Switch

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Post by jdpan » Wed Apr 20, 2011 1:08 am

Lubriplate it is.... Thanks John...
Little info on Lubriplate...

http://www.lubriplate.com/pdf/pds/3_23%20DS-ES.pdf" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

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Re: Ignition Switch

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Post by George Greer » Wed Apr 20, 2011 3:55 am

Some parts on the UH-60 Blackhawk, and AH 64 Apache helicopters that I work on us lubed by this same stuff.

Good stuff.

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Re: Ignition Switch

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Post by Panshovevo » Wed Apr 20, 2011 2:42 pm

George,
Are you military or civilian?
I'll never forget the first time I saw our attack choppers in simulated action (might have been '77, '78). I had just delivered a load of high priority goods to either Grafenweir (sp?) or Wildflecken (sp?) for a Reforger exercise, and was taking a break before heading back to Germersheim for more.
A flight of choppers, armed to the teeth, popped up without warning in a small cut between two hills, and headed directly for the area I was in. Between the surprise of no audible warning, and the intimidating appearance of the machines, a chill ran down my back, and I was very glad they were on my side.

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Re: Ignition Switch

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Post by hplhd » Wed Apr 20, 2011 3:27 pm

i have dia electric grease from crc. its served me well for the small things i need to put it on. i would be comfortable using it on my helicopter. :)

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Re: Ignition Switch

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Post by Bosheff » Wed Apr 20, 2011 6:54 pm

If it was in fact a repop piece, I'd think that may be yer problem as far as heigth is concerned....bosheff

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