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Shifter Pawls

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jdpan
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Shifter Pawls

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Post by jdpan » Tue Jul 31, 2012 3:18 am

Just how sharp are these things supposed to be? This fkng thing is driving me nuts! I can't seem to locate the reason why it keeps wanting to jam up tight when shifting to 2nd gear! Where's all the 4 speed guru's??



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Post by Limey_Dave » Tue Jul 31, 2012 3:31 am

Have you checked all the endfloat figures?

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Post by jdpan » Tue Jul 31, 2012 3:38 am

Limey_Dave wrote:Have you checked all the endfloat figures?
Without sounding like a dummass but huh?? lol This trans shifted like silk until the last time I had it out, just now finding the time to dig into it again.. Nothing has changed that I know of so far, the ratchet timing seems to be right on and everything looks to be in order, I'm obviously overlooking something.

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Post by mr. z » Tue Jul 31, 2012 4:13 am

Have you taken a look with the spring retainer removed? In front of the pawl carrier, just under the springs(bottom of the carrier) is a little cover held on by one screw. The 2 springs can then be pulled out, then tha pawls. They may be indexed wrong, or worn too sharp or too flat, or the springs themselvs don't have a lot of life left to 'em.

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Post by jdpan » Tue Jul 31, 2012 4:19 am

mr. z wrote:Have you taken a look with the spring retainer removed? In front of the pawl carrier, just under the springs(bottom of the carrier) is a little cover held on by one screw. The 2 springs can then be pulled out, then tha pawls. They may be indexed wrong, or worn too sharp or too flat, or the springs themselvs don't have a lot of life left to 'em.
Last time I was in there, (recently), I did have a busted pawl spring, thought that was the problem so I replaced all 4 springs, no luck. The problem is really difficult to describe, it's something that needs to be seen in order to understand what's going on.. I need questions asked so I can answer them hoping to hit on something that might be the cause.

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Post by Bosheff » Tue Jul 31, 2012 6:07 am

Are the paths in/on the shift drum worn beyond service limits?....bosheff

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Post by 58flh » Tue Jul 31, 2012 1:49 pm

I agree with Bosheff!, Make sure the drum is in good cond. -(no rounded corners or other signs of wear)-Also if you replaced 1 spring ,are the others questionable?,Make sure there in good cond. also!-The pawls should not be rounded ,they should be sharp as a way to put it. I would check all this & put the other 5 springs in,It may not need all of them -but you did have a broken one!--check for exdess-play in the shaft to.----Others will chime in & figure this out--just my 2---Good Luck ,RICHIE 8)

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Post by jdpan » Tue Jul 31, 2012 3:59 pm

All 4 springs are new and the drum shown no obvious signs of wear.... It's like this happened over night. I'll post a pic of the pawls later. Thanks for the replies so far.

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Post by jdpan » Tue Jul 31, 2012 11:48 pm

Couple pics...
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Post by jdpan » Thu Aug 02, 2012 12:21 am

One bump before this gets buried.

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