Clutch pedal Stop pin 36812-65

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Clutch pedal Stop pin 36812-65

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Post by panhead_kicker » Wed Feb 20, 2013 4:34 am

Looking at the diagram for this part (#26) , and not having seen one of these assemblies first hand, I cant figure out what this part "does" for the assembly. Anyone know?
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Re: Clutch pedal Stop pin 36812-65

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Post by Cotten » Wed Feb 20, 2013 2:36 pm

P_K!

The pin is bolted through the pedal's extra bottom hole, and limits the pedal's travel by hitting the raised edges of the pedal bracket.
This makes adjustments much easier, protects the footboard mat, and extends the life of primary chains by limiting the clutchbaskets's travel upon the hub.

I put them on every foot clutch, "correct" or not.

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Re: Clutch pedal Stop pin 36812-65

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Post by Cotten » Thu Feb 21, 2013 10:05 pm

And before I forget!

The pin is a simple champhered cylinder as shown, tapped on one end to 5/16"-24.

The bolt (with lockwasher) that secures it has a 7/16" hex, with a "Circle-F" on top, just like the bottom windshield mounting bolt (and others).

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Re: Clutch pedal Stop pin 36812-65

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Post by panhead_kicker » Fri Feb 22, 2013 12:54 am

Cotten wrote:And before I forget!

The pin is a simple champhered cylinder as shown, tapped on one end to 5/16"-24.

The bolt (with lockwasher) that secures it has a 7/16" hex, with a "Circle-F" on top, just like the bottom windshield mounting bolt (and others).

....Cotten
I was wondering about how it fastened. I've got one on the way. Not shown in the partial of the diagram I posted, is a bolt (#3) used from 1965 up, its a 5/16"x18 9/16 hex. Guess I'll find out soon enough.
thanks again!

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Re: Clutch pedal Stop pin 36812-65

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Post by Cotten » Sat Feb 23, 2013 5:37 pm

P_K!

My '65 parts book doesn't even show the pin.

There were many running production changes in '65, and somehow I ended up with two with SAE threads, obtained years apart.

Where else would such a pin be used?

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Re: Clutch pedal Stop pin 36812-65

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Post by panhead_kicker » Sat Feb 23, 2013 10:54 pm

Cotten wrote:P_K!

My '65 parts book doesn't even show the pin.

There were many running production changes in '65, and somehow I ended up with two with SAE threads, obtained years apart.

Where else would such a pin be used?

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Cotten,
No doubt to the use of the pin. I was only pointing out the bolt that my 58-68 parts books lists to attach the pin.
It's here today, and it is a coarse 5/16" 18 thread.
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Re: Clutch pedal Stop pin 36812-65

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Post by hplhd » Sun Feb 24, 2013 9:08 am

p.k. when you get that installed could you post a pic? i'm still confused were it goes. :?

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Re: Clutch pedal Stop pin 36812-65

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Post by PanJud » Sun Feb 24, 2013 2:35 pm

Wow...been riding mine for nearly 20 ('62) years, had no idea it was sposed to have one of those. Is it more for one end than the other? (admittedly, I DO look down every time after shifting into 4th...would be nice to know, without looking, that there is just enough free-play for my liking )

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Re: Clutch pedal Stop pin 36812-65

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Post by Cotten » Sun Feb 24, 2013 4:54 pm

Well, I was wrong again Folks,

I have ½" hex bolt, and although SAE, it appears the pin had been double tapped... (I'll blame it upon the Kansas City PD.)
Note that the champher is opposite of the bolt on mine.
(Somewhere I have another buried deep, but probably just as booger'd.)
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Re: Clutch pedal Stop pin 36812-65

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Post by hplhd » Sun Feb 24, 2013 6:56 pm

thanks for the pic cotten. how long is that piece? 2 1/4- 2 3/8?

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Re: Clutch pedal Stop pin 36812-65

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Post by panhead_kicker » Sun Feb 24, 2013 9:13 pm

hplhd wrote:...how long is that piece? 2 1/4- 2 3/8?
The stop pin is ~1 3/4" long.

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Re: Clutch pedal Stop pin 36812-65

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Post by Cotten » Sun Feb 24, 2013 9:34 pm

Is it a mystery to anyone, Folks....

Why Palmer's did not cover '65s?

It was all downhill for H-D.

Back to its function,
the pin stops the pedal to finite points upon both its compression and its release.
Thus the initial release play upon the clutchrod is more accurate, as well as the limit of its opening of the clutch pack itself. That is what limits the walk of the clutch drum upon the hub, just as the modern "tamer" achieves.

H-D should have used it at least three decades earlier.

I mean Cheeses!,.. the hole in the pedal was there!

....Cotten

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Re: Clutch pedal Stop pin 36812-65

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Post by RUBONE » Sun Feb 24, 2013 10:30 pm

The stop pin was not needed on the earlier models. If set up with the proper parts the pedal stops on the front footboard mounting stud, achieving the same thing the stud did on post '64 models.
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Re: Clutch pedal Stop pin 36812-65

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Post by Cotten » Mon Feb 25, 2013 2:38 am

RUBONE wrote:The stop pin was not needed on the earlier models. If set up with the proper parts the pedal stops on the front footboard mounting stud, achieving the same thing the stud did on post '64 models.
Robbie
Yes, Robbie,

But it leaves no room for your toe under the pedal, and the only stop for for the heel is to wear into the footboard mat.

Try one, your primary chain will appreciate it. (But not AMCA judges, of course.)

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Re: Clutch pedal Stop pin 36812-65

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Post by PanJud » Mon Feb 25, 2013 4:22 am

I just stared at my '62, I see the extra hole below the rivet hole which attaches the linkage....can't see what the bolt would push against

<edit> Hmm...mine isn't quite the same as the picture (may be missing pieces...have no idea, don't think I've ever seen another one up close)---the clutch rod on MINE attaches to the outside, quite near the rear pedal...doesn't have the flange to which the rod attaches in the picture. consequently, the rod rides back and forth slightly to the outside of the primary cover screws. Mebbe I've a book that shows it better
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