Another clutch question.

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StueyC
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Another clutch question.

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Post by StueyC » Wed Oct 28, 2009 3:41 am

The Vtwin catalogue shows 18-1216 roller set with 53 rollers and the 20-0229 Big Fix with 52 rollers. How many long rollers should I fit to my clutch?

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Re: Another clutch question.

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Post by Panacea » Thu Oct 29, 2009 2:27 am

As I recall, they give you an extra roller, in case you drop one...If you get the big fix, make a note of what type of grease comes with the kit for future maintainance, I re-lube the rollers every couple years usually. Unless you have a bigger than normal clutch shell it should take 52 rollers...Mike

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Re: Another clutch question.

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Post by StueyC » Thu Oct 29, 2009 2:44 am

Thanks Mike. I have a set of rollers but no grease. I was planning on using marine grade EP grease. What would you suggest?

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Re: Another clutch question.

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Post by PanPal » Thu Oct 29, 2009 4:17 pm

I have a set of rollers but no grease. I was planning on using marine grade EP grease. What would you suggest?
I'd like to know also! It seems what was in mine was too runny. The marine grade seems pretty tacky.

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Re: Another clutch question.

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Post by Panacea » Thu Oct 29, 2009 5:54 pm

The fix came with a small packet of a clear, medium heavy grease. Since then I've tryed several different kinds, looking for one that won't turn to a liquid, contaminating the clutch disks,(Harley special purpose grease)or dry out,(sillicone grease).My latest test is with the Harley wheel bearing grease, I used up the last of the tub so no part number, but it's blue grease and stays put quite well...Mike

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Re: Another clutch question.

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Post by Ohio-Rider » Thu Oct 29, 2009 6:44 pm

Also, Don't pack the grease in there like a wheel bearing. Just a light coating is enough. Remember, that hub only spins on those rollers when you have the clutch lever pulled in. -Steve

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Re: Another clutch question.

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Post by PanPal » Fri Oct 30, 2009 4:03 pm

Thanks for the replies. I think wheel bearing grease may be what I use next also. A friend and I assembled one and the grease he had on hand was almost stringy. I have no idea what it was, but it held up very well.

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Re: Another clutch question.

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Post by StueyC » Sat Oct 31, 2009 3:01 am

I have assembled it using Morey's Super Red waterproof grease. It's a EP grease, very tacky with high water washout resistance.

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Re: Another clutch question.

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Post by Bigincher » Sat Oct 31, 2009 3:14 am

StueyC wrote:I have assembled it using Morey's Super Red waterproof grease. It's a EP grease, very tacky with high water washout resistance.
StueyC
Isn't that the same characterisics as the blue marine grease? I use the blue marine grease almost everywhere--- if it's good on the wheel bearings of boat trailers, it's certainly good for my bike's wheel bearings, and clutch hub too. Before that I used plain old general purpose wheel bearing grease and never had a problem.

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Re: Another clutch question.

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Post by Sir_Rat » Mon Nov 02, 2009 10:52 am

If you really want to end your clutch troubles once and for all invest your money in one of the new after market clutches. I've been running a Barnett Scorpion in my frankenstien (80" with 4 speed). I will never again go back to a factory clutch in any bike that I ride regularly. The bike now shifts like a jap bike. I can hit nuetral (or any other gear) while idling at the stoplight. The clutch lever is so much lighter (you guys using foot clutches just dont know) now I use my pinkie and ring finger. Now heres the kicker....the bike feels alot faster. Dollar for dollar I can think of no single improvement I have ever made on a bike that made as much difference as the Barnett clutch did. It literally felt like I was riding a whole new bike! The bearing that comes with the kit is one of the presealed non greasable bearings so you never have to worry about what type of grease to use. I bet I get a flood of purists now dogging me for suggesting you run something other than what God and Harley Davidson designed...lol. If it will help just keep your old clutch parts around so you can put em back on the bike when your ready to sell it...you won't want to give up the barnett setup anyways..I guarunTEE it. Aloha peeps

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Re: Another clutch question.

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Post by ozwick86 » Mon Nov 02, 2009 5:14 pm

I have the BDL setup in my 59 and love it!

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Re: Another clutch question.

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Post by doug_heisel » Mon Nov 02, 2009 10:28 pm

The Barnet Scorpion I bet that it helps the bike start easier too. I'll have to look in to one. when I get some money together.

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