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Sinnersteel
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Ignition problems

#1

Post by Sinnersteel » Sat Feb 14, 2009 5:13 pm

Hello, I'm new here.

My 57 PAN (6V) has a Quickstart 2000.
The coil measured 1 ohm. Now I think the current is too high for the Quickstart 2000
My Quickstart 2000 is broken after 5000 km.
Should I install a 2 ohm coil ?



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Re: Ignition problems

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Post by mbskeam » Sat Feb 14, 2009 9:31 pm

3 ohm, for electronic
5 ohm, for points


mbskeam

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Re: Ignition problems

#3

Post by john HD » Sat Feb 14, 2009 10:10 pm

what is a quickstart 2000?

all i have is a mediumslowstart 1955.

john

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Re: Ignition problems

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Post by windweaver » Sat Feb 14, 2009 10:29 pm

it's an electronic ignition. WW

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Re: Ignition problems

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Post by Cotten » Sat Feb 14, 2009 10:36 pm

John!

It's gotta be one of those gismos that make them start even more better than 'one kick'.

....Cotten

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Re: Ignition problems

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Post by john HD » Sat Feb 14, 2009 11:58 pm

good one cotten!

i was wondering if it is one of those drop in kits to replace the points, or a complete timer.

john

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Re: Ignition problems

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Post by ozwick86 » Sun Feb 15, 2009 1:50 am

Sinnersteel,

Get a 3 ohm. That is what I use on my 59 with the Quickstart.

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Re: Ignition problems

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Post by FlatHeadSix » Sun Feb 15, 2009 1:51 am

John,
its a drop in for the OEM timer, there were a couple guys selling them at Davenport this year and he also runs a continuous ad in the AMCA magazine. From what I've heard they are supposed to be pretty good but, like any other "black box", its a bunch of unknown solid state electronics potted in plastic. When they go bad there is no way to diagnose them, or repair them, or (this is the worst part) do a quick fix on the road when it leaves you stranded 100 miles from home.

Frank
put the points and condenser back in your timer and ride your bike.

mike

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Re: Ignition problems

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Post by john HD » Sun Feb 15, 2009 1:59 am

mike

thanks that answers the question. i like stuff that doesn't alter the original parts.

i suppose you could keep a set of points and a condensor plus a 2 ohm resistor in your tool kit if it failed on the road.

john

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Re: Ignition problems

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Post by beets » Sun Feb 15, 2009 2:09 am

I used to have problems with aftermarket points&condensors. I have had no failures with the Tune-up kits I get from HD.
$20 for two 3-4 plugs,points and condensor.

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Re: Ignition problems

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Post by fourthgear » Sun Feb 15, 2009 6:29 am

I believe with the Quickstart , you can carry you org. points and cond. to swap back if you have problems on the road (you do carry extra points cond.& plugs ,right )
Ya know ,I don't want to jinx my self ,but I've been running a Mallory for years (about four )and have never had to touch the timing or adj. any thing and yes mine starts first kick any time , cold or warm .

I ran a 5 ohm point type coil for a couple of years before I got a three ohm for electronic type ing., ran fine ,but it does run a little better with the right ohm coil , I think, really hard to tell .

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Re: Ignition problems

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Post by Sinnersteel » Sun Feb 15, 2009 10:14 am

Everybody Thanks

I replace the points :wink: and a 2 or 3 ohm coil.
I bought the bike (in US) with the quickstart2000, It runs great about 5000km.
Now it's is by a shop ( http://www.Ironpit.nl) we placed a primary belt. When we would start the PAN he don't start.
Measured battery,coil and quickstart2000, result quickstart2000 is broken.

Greets

Frank

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Re: Ignition problems

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Post by ozwick86 » Tue Feb 24, 2009 2:45 pm

Sinnersteel,

Quickstart is guarnteed for life. Contact them and they will get you a new one.

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Re: Ignition problems

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Post by 58flh » Mon Oct 15, 2012 2:08 pm

The Quickstart is a good drop in timer!---SET & FORGET!--A 4-5ohm coil will work but will eventually damage the sensor!/ That is why they recomend a 3ohm coil!-2-Reasons!--The performance will be better due to a higher voltage burst out of the coil!-(thats where the DYNO readouts I saw gave a 4HP increase at 5500RPM & Tourque was a smidge higher at lowRPM!. But nothing to write home about about!--( This test was on a stock 74 pan with open-pipes & S&S-E carb.)-Pipe size was 13/4 x 36 inch with a modified 2-inch baffle. The 3ohm coil gave the stock 12V coil more output due to a longer saturation/or build-up of voltage before its sent to the plugs!--(you can get a better understanding from the website).-The Q-Start--Really shines with a duel-plug head set-up!, using Dyna coils.--- They work really well on stock motors also!--I have had good reports on the 4 I installed, & are still 1-kick hot or cold!,-(installed on 3-pans & 1flatside-shovel--I put 3ohm Dyna coils on all!)----RICHIE--PS---Everyone still carries a set of points & cond. in the bags!--Just incase!--A roadside change takes 15min. & Gone!---Hope this helps & answers a few questions!---GOOD-LUCK & Wheels-UP! :twisted:

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Re: Ignition problems

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Post by james » Mon Oct 15, 2012 4:07 pm

Tryed the e-beyond 2000, thought it was great, then it started acting up.
1 cylinder was dropping out.
I switched back to points.
I feel better now on the road.
If the ebeyond 2000 failed completely your in for a time of it.
If points or condenser fail not a big deal.

Jim

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