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Mallory Distributor

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Post by robinson666 » Sun Feb 15, 2009 12:05 am

I have a 65 pan in a 47 knuck frame I installed a mallory distributor the full electronic type no weights or springs. My engine was fully rebuilt less than 700 mi ago. I have the 4 6 and 8 switches on and the 1 2 3 5 7 off the timing is correct and the valves are set correctly I have an AB grind andrews cam with a S&S super e carb the bike is a real bitch to start does anyone have any experience with this set up. When I ran the Mallory with the weights and springs I had no trouble getting her started Any help would be appericated



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Re: Mallory Distributor

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Post by Hauula Pan » Sun Feb 15, 2009 2:42 am

I don't have the Mallory but I did find when I switched to an S&S Super E and Andrews B grind that my once reliable starting 52 became extremely finicky about starting. Where before with the Linkert & stock cam I could kick it hot or cold & have it fire right up, after the change I had to really retard the timing to get it to fire and then advance it once it was running. I don't know how your Mallory set up works as far as being able to move or set the timing for starting vs running, but I'll bet you if you retard it it will start. Won't run very well unless you can advance it after it starts, but might let you know what's going on.

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Re: Mallory Distributor

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Post by Frankenstein » Sun Feb 15, 2009 4:56 pm

Good advice. I'd take it back to points and be sure carb and cam are doing you right. Then add on the Mallory. My Pan and Knuckle are both very finicky about retard and starting. Don't know about others, but there seems to be one sweet spot for retard to get those one kick starts :lol:
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Post by Panacea » Sun Feb 15, 2009 11:15 pm

So, all you changed was the timer, from the mallory with the weights and springs to the electronic mallory?

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Post by robinson666 » Sun Feb 15, 2009 11:32 pm

Panacea wrote:So, all you changed was the timer, from the mallory with the weights and springs to the electronic mallory?
All I changed is distributor

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Post by mbskeam » Sun Feb 15, 2009 11:52 pm

I have the 4 6 and 8 switches on and the 1 2 3 5 7 off the timing is correct
is this the newer mallory with the single fire and rev limiter....etc?

mbskeam

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Post by robinson666 » Mon Feb 16, 2009 1:09 am

mbskeam wrote:
I have the 4 6 and 8 switches on and the 1 2 3 5 7 off the timing is correct
is this the newer mallory with the single fire and rev limiter....etc?

mbskeam
yes it is the new Mallory with the rev limiter and I am running a crane dual fire coil and the distributor is set for dual fire

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Post by Panacea » Mon Feb 16, 2009 1:24 am

I guess I would just experament with the timing. If the new unit has adjustable advance, try another setting with a bit less(in effect less retard at startup}. Mike

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Post by mbskeam » Mon Feb 16, 2009 3:12 am

look here...
http://www.accel-motorcycle.com/Product ... lection=20

you should ask them what the stock advance curve profile looks like...
they forgot to show this curve in the setup sheets
they have a email that you can ask a tech ? they maybe able to send you a picture of the curve in a email....
they need to revise there forms......

I think a fast up to 35deg from off idle.....
this is how a stock points ign is
retard at start, then full on advance from idle to 5000 plus rpm
I would set it to the stock curve, when you get it runnin then play from there

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Re: Mallory Distributor

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Post by robinson666 » Mon Feb 16, 2009 7:44 pm

robinson666 wrote:
Panacea wrote:So, all you changed was the timer, from the mallory with the weights and springs to the electronic mallory?
All I changed is distributor
I want to thank everyone for all of your help. The problem was that I had the plug wires on the coil backwards. i thought since it was a dual fire coil it wouldn't matter which way the wires were located since on every other engine with dual fire coil it doesn't matter. After I contacted a mallory tech he explained on this paticular distributor it does matter the bike started right up on two kicks cold. I talked with my engine builder and even with 40years building pans he never heard of this. Once again THANK YOU

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Post by Panacea » Tue Feb 17, 2009 2:38 am

Don't both plugs fire at the same time anyway on a dual fire? Mike

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Post by robinson666 » Tue Feb 17, 2009 4:29 am

Strange as it seems not on this distributor on start up the rear cylinder fires first then when it starts it is dual fire. I thought the same as you do dual fire is dual fire but not with this distributor go figure i have owned pans since 63 and never heard of such a thing

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Post by Panacea » Tue Feb 17, 2009 10:18 pm

I had a dyna ignition on a Heritage (EVO), that system went to dual fire untill the engine started, then to single fire. I would think at start-up single fire would be best...Mike

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Re: Mallory Distributor

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Post by Pomike » Wed Feb 18, 2009 1:08 am

The wording from some of these manufacturers can be confusing. They call a dual coil Dualfire, even though it is for the single fire ignition modules. If there are two separate coils, with a three wire hookup, then the proper wiring must be follwed for each cylinder. If it is just a single coil, with two outputs, then it shouldn't matter. The newer coil packs somethime have two coils that look like just one, and I think that is what will fool you if you don't know the system very well. Glad you got it figured out.
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Re: Mallory Distributor

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Post by 6 pack » Mon Sep 22, 2014 11:16 pm

what did you do with the wireing robinson666 ??????

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