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56/58/65 Pan
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Points and condenser

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Post by 56/58/65 Pan » Fri Jul 02, 2010 10:03 pm

Does anyone know a brand and part # for points and condenser for use in a manual advance circuit breaker in a 56 FL. Bought the echlin parts from napa that i saw on another post, but the points don't look like they would fit. The bike has been converted to 12v. Thanks



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Re: Points and condenser

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Post by Panacea » Fri Jul 02, 2010 11:27 pm

I got a set of those too, EchlinCS788, They have a stud on the pivot that goes into a hole on the base plate, (the points we need slip over a stud), plus the Echlin part doesn't have the cam screw slot for adjusting the gap or the lock down screw hole...Mike

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Re: Points and condenser

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Post by 56/58/65 Pan » Sat Jul 03, 2010 1:02 am

I went to advance auto this evening and ordered a set of borg warner part # A61. The picture looks right but i won't know till I pick up in the A.M. They are made for 41 to 48 chevys along with a bunch of other old stuff. I'm thinking about going to an electronic ignition, the quickstart2000. Got a reply from ebeyond2000 today and he said they would work. You still need to retard timing for starting. Thanks, Bill

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Re: Points and condenser

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Post by james » Sat Jul 03, 2010 1:30 am

I've had e-beyond 2000 for several years now without a problem.
Can't tell that you don't have points until you remove the cover.
No more fooling around with points, gaps, condensers and so on.
If I need to go back to points I can still do that, no major modifications.
The only thing I don't like is their wiring. They should be wired with cloth covered wiring. There are 2 wires instead of 1 so you have to get tricky.
I made up my own splicing into theirs. You can't tell and you can't see the second wire that is for power.

Jim

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Re: Points and condenser

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Post by 56/58/65 Pan » Sat Jul 03, 2010 1:42 pm

Jim, Is your Quickstart2000 mounted in a manual advance and do you still retard for starting.Were there any other parts that you changed when you installed it. Thanks Bill

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Re: Points and condenser

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Post by john HD » Sat Jul 03, 2010 2:01 pm

have you tried a dealer for the correct points?

john

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Re: Points and condenser

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Post by 56/58/65 Pan » Sat Jul 03, 2010 3:01 pm

John , not to close to any dealerships , but when the mule gets to feelin better i'll ride her to richmond. Thanks, Bill
P.S. I'll give em a call.

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Re: Points and condenser

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Post by james » Sun Jul 04, 2010 3:39 am

Bill
I have a manual timer and I do have to retard to start just like it had points.
I had to remove all the old point components as instructed in the directions.
There's no drilling or anything extra to do. I just saved all my points and stock hardware then installed the e-beyond 2000.
Like I said before I didn't like their wiring because it's a 2 wire setup needing power.
I wired in 2 cloth wires with enough sheathing to cover them up to the connector block behind the coil. Sent one wire to he coil where it belonged and one to ignition power behind the coil.
Can't see it. Im tellin ya it looks good.

jim

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Re: Points and condenser

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Post by hplhd » Sun Jul 04, 2010 2:23 pm

https://www.flatlandmotorcyclecompany.c ... y_id=11810" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
i used this one on my 64. it's just another option than the ebeyond.
achoowawa, i paid about 100 bucks when i bought mine. just saw the price difrnce. still a good product.

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Re: Points and condenser

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Post by 56/58/65 Pan » Sun Jul 04, 2010 3:42 pm

update on borg warner a61 points, look great , but the stud hole is to small. The dealer has the H-D parts for about $15 for points and $7 for condenser. Ordered quickstart2000 and should have it midweek. Cost after shipping around $170.00
thanks, bill

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Re: Points and condenser

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Post by pan50head » Mon Jul 05, 2010 6:53 pm

I ran across an issue converting to ebeyond. The coil for a points set-up is a different ohmage than a coil for an electronic ignition. At the time, I was using V-Twin stock-looking coils. Depending on the batch, the ohms varied from coil to coil. Also, the $100 coils kept going out. I now use the proper ohmage dyna (shovelhead) coil and it works great. No more need to carry a spare coil. Does anyone have an opinion on this? Am I worrying about what should not be an issue?

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Re: Points and condenser

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Post by ozwick86 » Tue Jul 06, 2010 3:31 am

I use the 3 Ohm Dyna coil with my Quickstart 2000.

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