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Mag question

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Post by badbird » Wed Apr 20, 2011 12:44 pm

as much as we dont want to change the pan too much, This bike is for riding and id feel much safer with a magnito ignition

I dont want to start shaving fins and chopping lumps off the cases, Id like a good auto advance mag that is a direct fit,
does such a beast exist?

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Re: Mag question

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Post by kitabel » Wed Apr 20, 2011 2:41 pm

No.

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Re: Mag question

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Post by hplhd » Wed Apr 20, 2011 3:20 pm

i'm sure kitabel is correct but morris has a g-5 mag that if irc is auto advance and drops in place. look up there website.

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Re: Mag question

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Post by PanPal » Wed Apr 20, 2011 3:57 pm

The G5 Morris will go in without any case mods. But I'm not sure about the fins on a 60 head. 58 to 62 fins were alot longer and heads have to be removed to remove the timer.

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Re: Mag question

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Post by kitabel » Wed Apr 20, 2011 5:51 pm

IIRC it only retards when the engine stops, which helps starts but doesn't retard at low engine speed.

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Re: Mag question

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Post by Cotten » Wed Apr 20, 2011 9:16 pm

kitabel wrote:IIRC it only retards when the engine stops, which helps starts but doesn't retard at low engine speed.
Kitabel!

So its an "auto-retard" instead of an auto-advance?

How slow do you have to go before it becomes annoying?

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Re: Mag question

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Post by oldbob » Wed Apr 20, 2011 11:08 pm

Last year wile I was looking in to single fire magneto system I came across a mag spacial made for use on Panheads. I hope this link works .

http://www.bikernet.com/pages/story_detail.aspx?id=1857" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

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Re: Mag question

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Post by 1950Panhead » Thu Apr 21, 2011 12:06 am

I have over 5000 miles on my panhead and have never had a problem with the stock timer.
On the cross country ride last summer mags were failing every day on the 1915 Harleys.
If you want reliability stay with the original ignition system.

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Re: Mag question

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Post by jdpan » Thu Apr 21, 2011 12:19 am

1950Panhead wrote:I have over 5000 miles on my panhead and have never had a problem with the stock timer.
On the cross country ride last summer mags were failing every day on the 1915 Harleys.
If you want reliability stay with the original ignition system.

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Re: Mag question

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Post by Cotten » Thu Apr 21, 2011 12:27 am

C'mon, Folks,

Comparing century-old Splitdorfs (Dixies, Bosch, whatever) with modern magnetos is silly.

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Re: Mag question

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Post by RUBONE » Thu Apr 21, 2011 1:16 am

This bike is for riding and id feel much safer with a magnito ignition
No offense to Cotten, and no comparisons to old magnets, but it just begs the question "why"?
Battery and coil ignitions replaced magnetos for the basic reason that they are less trouble to maintain. I have and have had lots of other bikes with magnetos and bikes with coils and have never felt at a disadvantage with a battery and coil set-up. And if you don't know mags and understand their limitations and idiosyncrasies you are just creating a future problem.
JMHO
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Re: Mag question

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Post by badbird » Thu Apr 21, 2011 1:46 am

having always had unit triumphs and such like I well know feelingwhen some dick turns your lights on while your in your favorite pub/club or whatever meeting place you chose, and you come out to a dead batery I know what happens when you zenner dies and kills your battery the alternator gives up,and a million other things,
when i got older machinery (pre unit triumphs and BSAs) it just diddnt matter,
i agree in an ideal world the breaker/coil is good, i never had a lucas mag die ever, iv repaired slip rings with araldite and had the repair last 15 years,
I am putting a mag on the unit triumph now thats easy these days but the pan?I just dont want to ruin anything but i want a mag simple as that
so is the morris a direct fit then I looked at the site they say it is and dont differentiate between years and models
anyone?

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Re: Mag question

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Post by Cotten » Thu Apr 21, 2011 2:21 am

badbird wrote:having always had unit triumphs and such like I well know feelingwhen some dick turns your lights on while your in your favorite pub/club or whatever meeting place you chose, and you come out to a dead batery .......?
Badbird!

That's your criteria for an ignition system?

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Re: Mag question

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Post by badbird » Thu Apr 21, 2011 9:28 am

no i guess that is a lame excuse, I fully know that a well functioning battery/coil ignition is unbeatable, and to me points are much better that the electric gismos My triumph has the boyer branston optical ignition system...its bloody awfull,

I guess its what your used to and feel comfertable with,
the biggest problem with the pan is at a slow idle switching on the lights or pushing the brake cuts the motor dead,
My AR system on the pan is a bodge up and was from the start i dont have a left hand twist and someone jury rigged a system that just dont work well,

i just dont recall ever being worried when i had mag powered bikes

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Re: Mag question

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Post by jibhead » Thu Apr 21, 2011 11:41 am

had a mag on my 45 for best part of 8 years no worrys, lucas on my p u triumph has failed failed failed, when i can afford it will buy a hunt or morris to replace it, i dont run batterys ,and sometimes no lights either .

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