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I need some help with an old bike

Information on the identification and numbering of frame, motor belly, transmission and other parts
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Re: I need some help with an old bike

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Post by beets » Wed Dec 24, 2008 11:57 pm

Could the engine be a U? I don't see any evidence of welding on the cases where they bolt to the frame. That would have to be done to mount a W set of cases in a Big Twin frame.



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Re: I need some help with an old bike

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Post by Glove » Thu Dec 25, 2008 12:47 pm

First off.... Merry Christmas everyone!


Beets, a few pages back (page 6?) VPH-D was able to explain the belly numbers on the cases after this post...
Glove wrote:
I found matching case numbers-
45-5180
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there was also a 112-392 (part number?) and J-4- date code?
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and I found out how the engine sprocket arrangement came about ....
its not very pretty
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(this picture shows how determined one can be)


Then VPH-D responded w/ this
" I would suggest that this motor was built with a non-numbered set of WLA cases, or was a complete non-numbered WLA motor. J4 is the date code indicating when the cases were cast, Sept of 1944. The confidential numbers indicate when the cases were machined as a pair, sometime in 1945."


Beets....I also have these heads-
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Thats a #5 that I understand to show the compression for 45s.


(there is a link to my photobucket account somewhere in these pages. It has ALL the pics I have taken of this thing if you care to see them)

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Re: I need some help with an old bike

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Post by Glove » Thu Dec 25, 2008 12:59 pm

Beets, this is why I was thinking its a 45...
I was told the military used UNSTAMPED 45 "W" cases to send overseas as a replacement part. There was need to stamp VI numbers in the cases for this application. I SWEAR the boss looks unmolested (IE- not hacked, not ground off, not sanded, ect). I was also told the 9/16" nuts were a sure sign of the 45s as the larger U engines used a 5/8" nut to hold the jugs. (again, I could have been mis-informed).

another mystery....
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no numbers (not ground off)- 9/16" nuts on the heads= 45 flathead?[/quote]
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Re: I need some help with an old bike

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Post by beets » Thu Dec 25, 2008 1:40 pm

The modified sprocket shaft,blank #s plate and jug nuts point to a WLA engine. I don't understand how they modified the front motor mount on a set of W cases to fit a BT frame. A friend that owns a 39 WL says the cam cover is a W part and will NOT fit a U engine.

It's a mystery.

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Re: I need some help with an old bike

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Post by VPH-D » Tue Dec 30, 2008 6:44 pm

The motor is not a member of the U family, it is a W engine. Like I stated, it appears to have been built around WLA unstamped cases [common at one time] or a complete unstamped WLA engine, also common at one time.
VPH-D

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Re: I need some help with an old bike

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Post by Glove » Mon Apr 23, 2012 12:40 pm

...talk about diggin up old threads!
Lots o things have changed since I was last pestering yall.
Daughter turns 6 next month...
Moved to a new house with ample room to wrench on stuff...

I am still the owner of this project. It just got placed on the back burner. Its still an organized pile of junk and I am still lookin to put a pan engine in the frame.
Just have not had the money when the right ones pop up for sale.

Glad the forum is still kickin!

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Re: I need some help with an old bike

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Post by Panacea » Wed Nov 21, 2012 6:45 pm

Time sure keeps marching on!...Mike

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Re: I need some help with an old bike

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Post by Glove » Tue Mar 10, 2015 3:33 pm

Boy time does just keep marching on!

I started this thread Fri Feb 02, 2007 8:28 am and here we are, almost 8 years later, almost to the day.
Had a birthday on 3-7. 41 years roaming the planet now.
The past 15 have been lusting after a 48 pan.
The stars aligned and everything kinda fell into place this past weekend.
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Re: I need some help with an old bike

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Post by Casaba » Tue Mar 10, 2015 5:04 pm

Looking forward to seeing the new updates...

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Re: I need some help with an old bike

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Post by Bigincher » Tue Mar 10, 2015 8:58 pm

That's great! Motor should drop right in that frame!

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Re: I need some help with an old bike

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Post by glove74 » Fri Mar 10, 2017 2:32 pm

few years have rolled by but it hasn't stopped my progress.

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Re: I need some help with an old bike

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Post by Bigincher » Fri Mar 10, 2017 3:19 pm

Looking good...!

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Re: I need some help with an old bike

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Post by RUBONE » Fri Mar 10, 2017 5:26 pm

Very cool. Looks much better with the frame filled up!!

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Re: I need some help with an old bike

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Post by Andygears » Sat Mar 11, 2017 2:30 am

Good looking ! Well worth the time invested. Remember labor time is the only part you can add in quantity for free. Make a conscious effort to enjoy the build, makes the completion sweeter!

My 2 cents

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