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1946 UL restoration

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Post by Shyambiker » Thu May 09, 2019 5:04 am

Hi friend's,
I am new to this wonderful forum. I have just acquired a 1946 up and a1947 knucklehead. I have restored many British classics like Norton's and Triumph's. This is my first vintage Harley restoration and I am very excited. I will need your help friends. I might at times post stupid questions but request you'll to not mind it.
My first question can someone tell me the differences between a 1946 and a 1947 knucklehead. As I think my chassis and gearbox are from 1946 and the engine from 1947. No engine no but the belly nos are 47.
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Re: 1946 UL restoration

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Post by 1950Panhead » Thu May 09, 2019 1:34 pm

Several parts changed in 47 including tank emblems, shift gate, speedometer, dash cover, tail light.
The cylinders, heads, engine case, tranny case, tranny cover have casting dates so you know when they were made.
Buy Palmers book - http://www.howtorestoreyourharleydavidson.com/

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Re: 1946 UL restoration

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Post by Shyambiker » Thu May 09, 2019 2:54 pm

Thank you so much for the reply.
I tried for the book but no luck. If someone here has it I am willing to buy as I understand I cannot do the restoration the right way without this book. There is one available on eBay but he had only the first edition. He says the second edition has more details on servi cars. I don't know if I need both the books of volume 2 or just the first edition of the two will be good enough. For clarity he has posted the picture of the book with three Harley's standing side by side, this is the one he has.
Thank you again for the info.
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Re: 1946 UL restoration

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Post by Buddhahoodvatoloco » Thu May 09, 2019 2:58 pm

Email debbie about the books, get the edition with two volumes.
If your trying to save money, you have the wrong mortorcycles.
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Re: 1946 UL restoration

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Post by Shyambiker » Thu May 09, 2019 3:10 pm

That's the first thing I did. They don't have it right now.
It was my dream to restore and ride a vintage Harley. I will never try to spare money in getting these beauties back to their glory.
Thank you so much for the quick reply.
Respectfully,
Shyam.

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Re: 1946 UL restoration

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Post by Shyambiker » Thu May 09, 2019 3:13 pm

Hi, can I know which is the original brand for tyres in 1946 ul and 1947 knuckle.
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Re: 1946 UL restoration

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Post by 1950Panhead » Thu May 09, 2019 3:41 pm

The factory used Firestone and Goodyear tires, Coker has reproductions - https://www.cokertire.com/tires/styles/ ... kwall.html
Ask Debbie if they have used or damaged books, you want both volumes.

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Re: 1946 UL restoration

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Post by RUBONE » Thu May 09, 2019 4:05 pm

Welcome to the forum Shyam. You have a couple good projects to keep you busy.
There are many small changes and differences in '46 and '47 models. Some are merely cosmetic but others are mechanical. Depending on when during the production year there are also changes within the year. As an example early '46 frame differs from late '46 to early '47, then another change, and finally a third change for very late '47. It becomes quite complicated to get correct.
Post some pictures of what you have and you can get some help identifying parts. Look in the help section for info on picture posting.
Have fun
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Re: 1946 UL restoration

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Post by Shyambiker » Thu May 09, 2019 4:46 pm

Thank you so much Robbie.
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Post by Shyambiker » Thu May 09, 2019 5:01 pm

Thank you for the tyre info panhead 1950 and yes it's a very good idea asking them for used or little damaged books.
Thank you
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Re: 1946 UL restoration

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Post by Mark44 » Fri May 10, 2019 2:08 am

Shyambiker wrote:
Thu May 09, 2019 3:13 pm
Hi, can I know which is the original brand for tyres in 1946 ul and 1947 knuckle.
1950Panhead mentioned Coker tires. Shinko also makes motorcycle tires that are good quality and significantly less costly than the Coker tires.

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Re: 1946 UL restoration

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Post by Speeding Big Twin » Sun May 12, 2019 3:36 pm

Shyam, welcome to the forum. Do you mean you have a 46UL and also a 47 Knuckle? If you have a 46UL then before beginning restoration may I ask if you had the engine number authenticated. If you’re not sure what a factory-stamped engine number looks like then you could post a partial photo—for example, 46UL1+++. And you could do a similar thing with the belly numbers—for example, 46-1+++.

No engine number on the 47 Knuckle? Do you mean it never had one? Or has it been removed?

Regarding Palmer’s 37–64 second edition (SE), the website says ‘sold out’ as of last October and that it may be 6-8 months before the SE is again available. Did you ask Mrs Palmer when the next printing is due? The SE was first brought out in 2014 but a revision was published in Jan 2015. If the next printing is not far away then I’d suggest waiting so you could receive the most up-to-date copy. Also check if an errata sheet will be available.

As for gearbox ID, below is a link to a thread I started in June 2016. It provides examples of casting date codes and changes to the gearbox cases.
Eric

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Re: 1946 UL restoration

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Post by Shyambiker » Tue Jun 25, 2019 7:28 pm

Hi Eric,
Sorry for the late answer.
I will post the ul engine and belly numbers just that don't know how to upload a picture here but will find Out.
Do you know what were the colours for a 1946 UL.
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Re: 1946 UL restoration

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Re: 1946 UL restoration

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Post by Speeding Big Twin » Wed Jun 26, 2019 9:16 am

Cheers Shyam. First page below is from a Harley operation, maintenance and specifications publication covering 1930–49 models. For 1946 colours it records gray and red.

1941-46.jpg

Same two colours are on the 1946 season order blank below which is from The Legend Begins.

1946 season order blank.jpg

That was the first order blank for 1946 models and at top left you’ll see it is F-404-46. But apparently there was a second blank for 1946 and it was F-404-46A. The second blank listed skyway blue, flight red and police silver. Also, black was an optional colour from at least November 1945 thru the end of the year according to Bruce Palmer's resto book.
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