Tire mounting machine at a shop "safe" for old pan wheels?

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Tire mounting machine at a shop "safe" for old pan wheels?

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Post by packrat48 » Fri May 10, 2019 3:37 am

I have always done old ones by hand, however lately the arthritis is truly limiting. I tried just now, but it aint happening . There is a shop I trust with a machine, they do all my newer stuff. Do many of you have shops (machines) mount new tires on old pan wheels? I am perhaps just being overly cautious, but that's just how I am.. Just looking for opinions..

Thanks, as always for your experiences and wisdom.

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Re: Tire mounting machine at a shop "safe" for old pan wheels?

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Post by Buddhahoodvatoloco » Fri May 10, 2019 3:55 am

Overly Cautious :P

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Re: Tire mounting machine at a shop "safe" for old pan wheels?

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Post by Edaddy » Fri May 10, 2019 1:53 pm

I get your caution, but my local shop - "Wings" in Bellingham, Wa, did my tires no problem. When I needed the back one done later (my fender support broke and the fender tore up the new tire) I went to another local shop and they did that swap for me no problem.

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Re: Tire mounting machine at a shop "safe" for old pan wheels?

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Post by Frankenstein » Fri May 10, 2019 2:30 pm

I work part time in an independent shop, we do old to new H D rims. If your tire guy is competent it's no problem. The tubes just take a little special care.
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Re: Tire mounting machine at a shop "safe" for old pan wheels?

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Post by Andygears » Fri May 10, 2019 10:18 pm

Frankenstein wrote:
Fri May 10, 2019 2:30 pm
I work part time in an independent shop, we do old to new H D rims. If your tire guy is competent it's no problem. The tubes just take a little special care.
DD
I agree if your guy is competent, no problem, but likely if he is competent he's doing more technical work. Sorry, but changing tires on a bike or a car is entry level work, and pays that way, so for that money, is he competent?

Just my opinion,

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Re: Tire mounting machine at a shop "safe" for old pan wheels?

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Post by Pete808 » Sat May 11, 2019 5:01 am

At the dealership I work at tire changes go to new guys as well as guys that have been here wrenching for 20 years. We do new bikes and old bikes, some people just bring the wheel some bring the whole bike. There is always a chance that something can go wrong, or something can get scratched since shit happens but I wouldn't hesitate to have a shop do it.

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Re: Tire mounting machine at a shop "safe" for old pan wheels?

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Post by Frankenstein » Sun May 12, 2019 3:23 pm

At our shop we all do our turn on the tire machine, it's no one's favorite job, but we're all competent at it. I'm the slowest :D But if you've been doing it with your 2 favorite ground off screwdrivers for 40 years you've learned to watch out for that tube, I'm just slow at everything :D
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Re: Tire mounting machine at a shop "safe" for old pan wheels?

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Post by RooDog » Mon May 13, 2019 1:13 pm

I don't trust other people to do anything on my bike. I remove the wheel, change out the tire, service the wheel bearings, and then take it to a local indi shop to have the balancing done with a spin balancer.
The fewer people who handle your stuff, the fewer people for you to be mad at if things go worng.....
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Re: Tire mounting machine at a shop "safe" for old pan wheels?

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Post by packrat48 » Mon May 13, 2019 2:36 pm

RooDog, that is the reason for my original post. I try to do everything myself; I know shop mechanics are often competent, sometimes excellent, yet nobody knows my bikes as well-and cares about them anywhere near as much as I do. I know my limitations-but its not likely anybody will do as careful work as I will on my own bikes. Even if I have to spend weeks learning and figuring things out. After all, that's one of the rewarding pleasures about old machines-the doing of the work and restoration. I did take the wheel to a good shop with no problems except some scraped paint. Had I managed to get the tire on there, my hands would have been useless for days-and I have to make a living to pay for all this!

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Re: Tire mounting machine at a shop "safe" for old pan wheels?

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Post by RooDog » Mon May 13, 2019 6:12 pm

Please bear in mind that this being an open forum that my comments are in place for the general reader and especially for the new guy to the fun and games involved in old Harleys. I usually stress that one must be personally involved with his machine, know it inside and out, have sufficient Harley print manuals, both for parts and service information, and not be afraid to tackle most every aspect of service, repair, and maintenance. There are a few things that out of necessity most of us must farm out, like cylinder boring, crank truing, and tire spin balancing, but most everything else can be done in a backyard shop if one just jumps in and tackles the job. As they say in the porno flicks: There's no problem that can't be licked once you put your head to it"....
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Re: Tire mounting machine at a shop "safe" for old pan wheels?

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Post by Andygears » Mon May 13, 2019 10:06 pm

but its not likely anybody will do as careful work as I will , Profound statement!

On a positive note, have you guys tried the balancing beads? A kit from Amazon costs about $15 with 1oz. For front, 2 oz. for rear, bottle, hose, special valve cores. All included. Just pour them in the valve hole and it balances. I did my panhead and it worked great, and no wheel weights showing. Works for me, requires patience pouring in the beads (disclaimer)

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Re: Tire mounting machine at a shop "safe" for old pan wheels?

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Post by awander » Mon May 13, 2019 10:11 pm

Andy:

Do the beads make noise at low speed?

Andy

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Re: Tire mounting machine at a shop "safe" for old pan wheels?

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Post by Andygears » Mon May 13, 2019 11:15 pm

Andy

Not that I noticed, a guy with a beautiful '49 green pan told me about them, so I tried them, what's to lose? Might make a mess with tubeless tires but in a tube?....

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Re: Tire mounting machine at a shop "safe" for old pan wheels?

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Post by Frankenstein » Tue May 14, 2019 12:45 am

We use them at the shop on the rare tire/rim that our balancing machine can't handle. Seem to work well, tedious getting them in. never noticed any noise.
DD

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