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Post by white1j0 » Mon Apr 15, 2019 3:02 pm

I'm trying to find out how many ELs & Fls were produced in each year from 1941 to 1947, the Knowledge base doesn't list them.



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Re: Production numbers

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Post by 1950Panhead » Mon Apr 15, 2019 3:31 pm

47 was highest production, followed by 46 then 41, 42 to 45 wla during war
47-11648
46-6746
41-5149

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Re: Production numbers

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Post by white1j0 » Mon Apr 15, 2019 8:04 pm

I was actually only interested in how many 1942 Els were produced.

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Re: Production numbers

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Post by RUBONE » Mon Apr 15, 2019 10:33 pm

HAHa, you should have asked that. :mrgreen:

According to both "The Legend Begins" and the "H-D Data Book" the same figures are shown. Keep in mind these are not definites as the factory did not keep true records.
EL 620
ES 164 (the number boss will just show "E")
ELA 8 (Test bikes for the Army)
ELC 45 (Canadian Defense Bikes)

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Re: Production numbers

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Post by Buddhahoodvatoloco » Tue Apr 16, 2019 12:03 am

HD data book, new one to me. :o :o
RUBONE wrote:
Mon Apr 15, 2019 10:33 pm
HAHa, you should have asked that. :mrgreen:

According to both "The Legend Begins" and the "H-D Data Book" the same figures are shown. Keep in mind these are not definites as the factory did not keep true records.
EL 620
ES 164 (the number boss will just show "E")
ELA 8 (Test bikes for the Army)
ELC 45 (Canadian Defense Bikes)

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Re: Production numbers

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Post by Speeding Big Twin » Wed Apr 17, 2019 9:29 am

white1j0 wrote:
Mon Apr 15, 2019 8:04 pm
I was actually only interested in how many 1942 Els were produced.

I doubt that anyone knows how many 1942 ELs were produced.

Pages 199-227 of The Legend Begins contain some production figures and model descriptions for 1969-earlier. However, page 198 states: ‘We are passing this information along to our enthusiasts as a matter of interest, and it is not to be regarded as totally accurate.’

It is unclear how Legend production figures were calculated. Calendar year? Model year? Bruce Palmer says they were compiled in 1978 by H-D employee Midge Kimbell but in 1994 she told him that when the list was prepared some records were missing. She also said the list was made as a quick project and the numbers were not double checked.

As for 1942 it is one of the worst years as far as Legend records are concerned. For example, there are two different amounts of WLAs, two different amounts of WLCs and two different amounts of XAs. Are any of those six amounts correct? The only figure given for ELs is 620 but how would anyone know if it is true or not? No-one at H-D addressed the problem with the WLAs, WLCs and XAs so I think all Legend figures remain suspect. And although Legend lists the ELs and other models under year 1942, it is unclear whether it means calendar year or model year.
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Re: Production numbers

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Post by white1j0 » Wed Apr 17, 2019 12:58 pm

How about 42FLs

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Re: Production numbers

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Post by 1950Panhead » Wed Apr 17, 2019 11:49 pm

906 FL's

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Re: Production numbers

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Post by Speeding Big Twin » Thu Apr 18, 2019 2:52 am

white1j0 wrote:
Wed Apr 17, 2019 12:58 pm
How about 42FLs

Page 204 in The Legend Begins says 799 FLs for 1942. But are those 799 all 1942 models? Or are some of them 1943 models that were made in 1942? This is part of the problem with Legend figures because although the 799 FLs are listed under year 1942, it is unclear whether it means calendar year or model year.

Some authentic-looking serial numbers don’t comply with alleged production figures in Legend. And the same goes for alleged production amounts in a few other publications I have copies of. Are you concerned about any 1942 Knucklehead serial number(s) in particular?
Eric

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