Buyers guide for noob - 56 Pan take 2

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Buyers guide for noob - 56 Pan take 2

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Post by Womtong » Fri Feb 07, 2020 5:35 pm

Dear gentlemen
I have opened a new thread because of new bike. Hope this is ok. Now I have found a new bike which looks interesting for me. Before I go there for detailed examination I would like to be well prepared and asking for your help.
Many thanks for checking enclosed pictures. Seller is a US guy located in Germany and owns the bike since 22 years.
Frame is raked which makes me sad.
Requested price around 20k €.
I see wet cylinder gasket and strange: A disc brake on the front? Carburator looks like a Linkert. Speedometer is I think a reproduction.
Many thanks for your professional opinion especially if you are able to detect a lot of wrong parts on the bike.
Chris from Austria
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Re: Buyers guide for noob - 56 Pan take 2

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Post by RooDog » Fri Feb 07, 2020 6:58 pm

Nice looking motorcycle....
Yes, aftermarket speedo. I doubt the frame is raked, need a close up picture of the neck, Is the fork lock still in place? The
fork IS extended, probably not more than four inches, easy enough to correct.
The primary cover is an incorrect repop, and the gastanks are from a Shovelhead.
The sidecar loops, and the rear stand extensions on the axle plates are gone.
The Carburetor is a Bendix/Zenith. A very good carburetor for s Panhead. and I would leave it in place if it is working correctly. The air cleaner is crap, get a stock style one with a K&N element. And get an oil filter installed too....
The front disc brake is a good safety feature....
None of this stuff really matters if you intend to ride the wheels off of this bike. The price is up to you....
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Re: Buyers guide for noob - 56 Pan take 2

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Post by Womtong » Fri Feb 07, 2020 7:19 pm

Many thanks.
Better picture of head area?
Cheers
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Re: Buyers guide for noob - 56 Pan take 2

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Post by RooDog » Fri Feb 07, 2020 7:42 pm

Yep, looks like you gots yourself the makings for a nice chopper,bobber, ridable street bike, pretty much beyond restoring,
How are the engine and belly numbers? Are they as bogus as that neck number. And yes I do realize European vehicle laws are way different than here in the States....
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Re: Buyers guide for noob - 56 Pan take 2

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Post by RUBONE » Fri Feb 07, 2020 9:49 pm

To add to the list:
Tailight is wrong style for year
Seat is reproduction and wrong style
Oil tank is aftermarket
Coil is repop
Regulator and mount are '60s style (Relay boss is missing from cases)
Kicker arm and pedal are wrong, pedal is '63 up
Steering damper missing
Horn is repop
Footboards are repop
Missing mousetrap
Front fender is '70s
Handlebars are aftermarket

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Re: Buyers guide for noob - 56 Pan take 2

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Post by panhead_kicker » Fri Feb 07, 2020 10:31 pm

I don't know how prices run in Austria, but that bike would not sell here in the US for 10k (much less than 20K), except to someone very uninformed AND with money to burn. So either as a rider or a restoration, the price is too high. Good for you to try and educate yourself before spending money.

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Re: Buyers guide for noob - 56 Pan take 2

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Post by Andygears » Sat Feb 08, 2020 12:52 am

Price is too high, nearly everything is aftermarket except motor and trans cases, serious head gasket leak (fresh oil and blown back on rear cyl. ).

Pass and find something better.

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Re: Buyers guide for noob - 56 Pan take 2

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Post by blewcrab » Sat Feb 08, 2020 2:08 pm

the only thing I see wrong is the gremlin bell …….mounted too high and too far back :D

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Re: Buyers guide for noob - 56 Pan take 2

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Post by Womtong » Sun Feb 09, 2020 10:35 pm

blewcrab wrote:
Sat Feb 08, 2020 2:08 pm
the only thing I see wrong is the gremlin bell …….mounted too high and too far back :D
Sorry, but I do not understand that. Help me learning and thanks for explanation.
Cheers

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Re: Buyers guide for noob - 56 Pan take 2

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Post by FL54 » Mon Feb 10, 2020 3:49 pm

Blewcrab is referring to the little bell hanging off of what I think may be the tool box bracket. Should be mounted low and on the front of the bike to scare off road gremlins.

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Re: Buyers guide for noob - 56 Pan take 2

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Post by RUBONE » Mon Feb 10, 2020 4:34 pm

Looks like it is hanging on a welded on footpeg mount. It should actually be in the trash......

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Re: Buyers guide for noob - 56 Pan take 2

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Post by 1950Panhead » Mon Feb 10, 2020 5:09 pm

Looks like it is hanging on a welded on footpeg mount. It should actually be in the trash......
The bell or the motorcycle ?

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Re: Buyers guide for noob - 56 Pan take 2

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Post by RUBONE » Mon Feb 10, 2020 6:25 pm

1950Panhead wrote:
Mon Feb 10, 2020 5:09 pm
Looks like it is hanging on a welded on footpeg mount. It should actually be in the trash......
The bell or the motorcycle ?
Just the bell, the bike is fine.... :roll:

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Re: Buyers guide for noob - 56 Pan take 2

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Post by RooDog » Mon Feb 10, 2020 7:43 pm

The bike IS fine, as Robbie said, it just isn't of restoration/original condition. I would ride it but without the bell, but then what do I know?....
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Re: Buyers guide for noob - 56 Pan take 2

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Post by Womtong » Wed Feb 12, 2020 9:13 am

FL54 wrote:
Mon Feb 10, 2020 3:49 pm
Blewcrab is referring to the little bell hanging off of what I think may be the tool box bracket. Should be mounted low and on the front of the bike to scare off road gremlins.
Ah, this bell🤣🤣
Many thanks for explanation!
This bike is for that price not the right one. I keep on searching and learning!

Many thanks at all for professional help!
Greetings from 🇦🇹 Austria

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