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Cam question?

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Post by George Greer »

Ok,

I got around to changing out the cam that cam with my engine when I got it in Holland with a new Andrews J cam.

The question that I have is about the cam that came out of the engine.

Would this cam with the long open duration make my bike temperamental, when tuning the carb during the test runs?

And getting it to idle, with the chickensoup-chickensoup idle.

I am letting the bike sit overnight before I get to start it..........

Mamma want's to go out for dinner... :D

Pictured is the cam that came out.

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Re: Cam question?

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G...
What is that cam, an FLH, Victory cam? I can't see any markings on it. It is not so much that it is long duration, but that it is very low lift.
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Re: Cam question?

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RD,

Don't know what cam it is, but I do know that it is Not a FLH Victory cam.

No matter anymore, because I now have a cam installed that I know the specs on.

While I had it apart changing the cam, I installed the Silicone pushrod tube gaskets........the set I tried to install sucks........too thick and will not compress enough to be able to install the pushrod covers properly, so......I used cork for the top, cork for the middle.....and installed them at the lifter block locations.......

They suck........leaked like a freaking sieve .. not to happy with them,

So, I am going back to regular cork seals for the pushrod tubes, and if I have to change them every year of so, as part of routine maintenance, so be it.

At least the corks did not leak.

Usual disclaimer, your experience may vary.

:D George

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Re: Cam question?

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George....
I am sorry your BS seals are BS. Too bad, I wonder who made 'em....
The blue silicone ones I have I bought in bulk packaging from V-Twin over 20 years ago. I suppose your experience verifies that not all things, with Humans. are created equal. I will no longer tout their benefits.
I did have to grind the OD on four center ones for my Project Panny, but otherwise they functioned very well.
Now. it's time to ride....
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Re: Cam question?

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Be careful of that low idle, George. Not that great for oiling the engine....

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RD,

Here is a link to the ones I installed and did not fit right.

Tec Blue Gaskets.

http://www.wwag.com/cgi-bin/WebObjects/ ... e=%2152309

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Re: Cam question?

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I had the same luck as you George 10 years or so ago, got a wild hair or so a few years ago and tried again and fit ok but turned into gummy worms after few a rides.

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Fellas....
Like happens so often with a new innovative product, the rats sneak in with knockoffs that may look alike the real thing but are miserable failures, muddying the waters for the real deal good stuff. Harley replacement parts seem to be a major target for these hucksters. So beware of what you are buying. Again, the blue silicone PR seals I got from Tedd Cycle's V-Twin, 20 years ago have served me well all that time, and I have used and sold sets for/to customers with no problems.
Let the buyer beware....
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Re: Cam question?

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Post by Excalibur »

Some of the seal failures are possibly to do with pushrod tube condition. They can get very beaten up over the years. They only made from light gauge.
I was lucky enough to have more than one set of tubes so I picked the best ones, then carefully groomed the seal flange areas. Seems to work.
Hope this helps.

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Re: Cam question?

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Excalibur wrote:
Mon Jun 29, 2020 8:30 am
Some of the seal failures are possibly to do with pushrod tube condition. They can get very beaten up over the years. They only made from light gauge.
I was lucky enough to have more than one set of tubes so I picked the best ones, then carefully groomed the seal flange areas. Seems to work.
Hope this helps.
Yes sir,

I did, took a piece of plate glass with 100 grit sandpaper to the flat surfaces of the tubes and dressed them up clean and flat.

Thanks,

George

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